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[quintessential]

I think nan chiau got Silver cuz they chose the wrong choice piece....but they probably chose their choice peice before they knew who the judges were so perhaps, it's just their luck >.< (xia fei yun conducted yue er gao before, but by the time snco found out that he's the conductor, sn alr chose yue er gao as their choice piece)

furthermore, if luo wei lun the composer didn't think that nan chiau expressed what he wanted to express when he wrote that piece....>.<

their daji was really good (my senior said that the daji wasn't following the conductor) but...i'm not that pro and i couldn't tell ^^;; so i'm not too sure about that.

I think that if woodgrove and zhonghua had just played on other days, they just might have gotten GwH, i really enjoyed listening to them.

day 3 2nd session was just....wow.
(and i thought being before dhs and ngee an was scary - it was, but the 2nd session, i feel, was scarier ^^;)

[limwy]

no offence but i didn't think nau chiau was up to the gold standard yet... they were not very stable plus i think because they changed some of the notes to an octave lower... which well maybe changed what the song was supposed to be like... anyway. that song was challenging and nau chiau was brave enough to choose that song. it's already an accomplishment for that.

correct me if i'm wrong.

[reborn.rach]

i think nchsco was better than sacco anyway that day

yeah, actually like wad clrnc mentioned, i think it's the set piece that pulled them down. and probably the fact that they played law wei lun's composition. i felt that sacco doesnt have any 爆點.

[Minhui]

Xu YiPing arranged Nan Chiau set piece in a way they stopped before the kuai ban and then continued, i think thats where they lost alot of points. And furthermore, they chose that difficult choice piece, with luo wei lun the composer as judge which meant any error will be hugely magnified as well.

zhong hua played very well but once again i think its xu yiping way of arrangement which didn't match the judge flavours. I think Woodgrove was slightly better than ZhongHua, but both should have got gwh.

Agreed. but IN MY OPINION, zh's choice wasnt as clean as NYCO that they deserved an honours & that they deserved a gold more than an honours.

hmm. but then again, if there were(are) so many GWH, dont you think it defeats the purpose of having a gold with honours? wouldnt it be like scrapping off COPs and replacing them as bronzes? what do you think?

[Minhui]

no offence but i didn't think nau chiau was up to the gold standard yet... they were not very stable plus i think because they changed some of the notes to an octave lower... which well maybe changed what the song was supposed to be like... anyway. that song was challenging and nau chiau was brave enough to choose that song. it's already an accomplishment for that.

correct me if i'm wrong.

no pun intended. but i agree as well. their choice is too grand a piece for syf, the composer's one of the judges, they doubled instrument parts on other instruments for quantity sound and changed many initial ideas & sound effects that mr lwl's intended. perhaps that is why, like clrnc mentioned earlier, they're heavily penalized (?).

[Yuheng]

Nan Chiau's choice piece, 海上第一人 - 鄭和, is one of my favourite pieces. For a secondary school orchestra to even attempt to play this piece, much less use it in SYF, is really bold.

2 years ago, when I performed this piece with SYCO and SCO, I feel we didn't do a very good job of it, which shows the level this piece required. Mr Law is very proud of this composition, and has very high expectations of anyone who performs it.

[ahchew]

Zhco's chosen piece was ' xiang xi feng qing'. We worked hard to perform that song. XYP gave us that song because she believed that this batch could actually play this song well and we did. Although we didn't get gwh, we still believe that we're gwh. Some things went wrong though. It was a very emotional event, and i really thought that we did very good (not to boast or anything). Our dajiyue was totally awesome. Xiang xi requires lots of skills and practise. That's why we were saddened to get gold. 'Guess we can't question the judges' credibility huh.

Anyways,
Congratulations to all COs. See you in the CO SYF '09. (:

[/Singhui]

hmm. but then again, if there were(are) so many GWH, dont you think it defeats the purpose of having a gold with honours? wouldnt it be like scrapping off COPs and replacing them as bronzes? what do you think?

Gwhs just really means that the CO has scored 85% and above during their SYF performance. And we should really be glad that more Gwhs are given out, proving that CO standards in Sg is soaring(:
Well, i guess they wouldn't hesitate to give a COP if schools really 'deserve' it. Just dont see it as 'replacing them as bronzes'.

[Melodyflows]

nanchiau should have got gold. zhong hua should have got gwh...but i am thinking their conductor(the same) arranged the set piece not to the judge likings because their choice piece was very very difficult.

Woodgrove should have got gwh too. Low Cher Yong did brilliantly with his 2 songs.

Everybody was utterly surprised Evergreen got gwh because their half of their choice piece only had huqin and cello playing...

the others gwh was utterly deserving. congrats to all

that's wad the song is about

[Melodyflows]

I don't think cat high deserved the gwh. My friend went to watch them yesterday and she said cat high's suona shao pian cracked in the middle of their performance and the suona went totally out of tune. I mean syf is about your performance on stage and how can a sch with such accidents get gwh?

i think they did quite well, but hwachong's choice piece was slow and quite afew was falling asleep halfway 

[Clrnc]

i think they did quite well, but hwachong's choice piece was slow and quite afew was falling asleep halfway 

those who fell asleep are those who don't know how to listen

[yijing]

i think they did quite well, but hwachong's choice piece was slow and quite afew was falling asleep halfway 

i agree that that the few weren't listening. slow? we had a freaking loud and fast kuaiban in the middle. and the first part wasn't slow, it was emotional.

[yijing]

please stop commenting on whether an orchestra was better than another, or whether any orchestra didn't deserve the award given.

when the comments come out then you won't even have to say anything any more. each orchestra has its own unique way of expressing itself and yeah well if people can't appreciate it thats just too bad - the judges do, and thats what mattered more at that point in time.

i think that all schools that got GWH are around the same - there's no basis for music other than feeling, rhythm and accuracy. in the end it all comes to down to that 12 minutes or so on stage, where loads of things could happen for the better or the worse.

so don't be biased when you say whether an orchestra deserved it or not..that 12 minutes does make a lot of difference.

and even though loads of you say that temasek or ngee ann or evergreen doesn't deserve their GWH, its over. at least spare a thought for what they're feeling.

[Melodyflows]

please stop commenting on whether an orchestra was better than another, or whether any orchestra didn't deserve the award given.

when the comments come out then you won't even have to say anything any more. each orchestra has its own unique way of expressing itself and yeah well if people can't appreciate it thats just too bad - the judges do, and thats what mattered more at that point in time.

i think that all schools that got GWH are around the same - there's no basis for music other than feeling, rhythm and accuracy. in the end it all comes to down to that 12 minutes or so on stage, where loads of things could happen for the better or the worse.

so don't be biased when you say whether an orchestra deserved it or not..that 12 minutes does make a lot of difference.

and even though loads of you say that temasek or ngee ann or evergreen doesn't deserve their GWH, its over. at least spare a thought for what they're feeling.

i agree with you !
who knows if some people might be so hurt that they go cut themselves...
that was so un-real...
lols
i believe yijing's from hc?

[yijing]

haha yeap i'm from hcico

[._.]

i think they did quite well, but hwachong's choice piece was slow and quite afew was falling asleep halfway 

Maybe it was slow at the beginning, but it was freaking fast at the end of the song for our er hu.

[NCHSCO]

I think SAC did really well this year , as like, infront of them were gwh schools, and they still can get a gold, though their some parts wrong here and there. I also heard that nan chiau laughed at them, when they went backstage, and some teacher rolled eyes at them.

in my opinion, i highly presume its a misunderstanding, for i'm the student conductor of NCCO. the teacher-in-charge is one of the disciplinary teacher in my school and perhaps she may be judge as stern but i felt otherwise. besides that, i cant deny the fact that she's very strict with us. however, she always taught us to be humble. our daji player also don't see themselves who can play well. lastly, i must emphasise again that this matter is perhaps a misunderstanding.

[someone]

Why is focus always on GWH? Ya, i know GWH is really a big prize, but the music is also important right? Hmmmm.. I don't know but i think some schools deserve a better prize than they should, but i will respect the judges' decisions. 

[._.]

Different people have different views.

[/Singhui]

when the comments come out then you won't even have to say anything any more. each orchestra has its own unique way of expressing itself and yeah well if people can't appreciate it thats just too bad - the judges do, and thats what mattered more at that point in time.
...
and even though loads of you say that temasek or ngee ann or evergreen doesn't deserve their GWH, its over. at least spare a thought for what they're feeling.

Agreed.
Omg, when r the comments coming out??

[quintessential]

HCI's choice piece was slow???!

i beg to differ -_- the middle was crazy fast, esp for laxian.

slow is more like...yue er gao...but yue er gao's meant to be slow so *shrugs*
(and we sped it up alot because we were afraid of going over 8mins)

[Verbena]

HCICO's choice piece is super nice leh...those ppl who fall asleep really do not know how to appreciate the song...it has a story behind the song...and it is so nice..expecially the dizi solo...
yue er gao is also very nice and it was supposed to be even slower..we really sped it up alot becos of the time limit and we cut some parts which is very nice...so sad

[quintessential]

Verbena! i'm still sad that liu lao shi cut out my fave part T_T (and i prefer the faster version lol) just di 4 duan DX

and you meant yijing's solo? =P

all the solos were great on day 3 =)

[1000n1]

Agreed.
Omg, when r the comments coming out??

most prob at the end of the month bah, when they collate everything together.. o.o

[Yuheng]

嘎達梅林 is a great piece, and it's definitely not slow.

Even SCO musicians have complained about playing this piece at high speeds during SYCO rehearsals (I complained too). And this piece made me realize how good a conductor Mr Yeh Tsung really is.

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